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	<title>Comments on: JVC DLA-RS20 &#8211; and HD750 Home Theater Projector: First Look!</title>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Art, thanks again for all the input. I was curious as to what JVC has since said about what is the best fitting anamorphic lens since you published your review? Are people able to use an ISCO or Schneider or are folks steering more towards something like a Panamorph? Thanks again.

-Nate

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Hi Nate,  Actually I updated the JVC reviews recently (I think I did both).  Anyway, JVC sells their anamorphic solution using the Panamorph lens.  It works with the RS10/20/HD350/750, as well as the older ones.  Their original (Schneider optics) only works with the older JVC&#039;s.  From what JVC tells me, it&#039;s the &quot;standard&quot; Panamorph lens, but the mounting plates are custom for the JVC, as opposed to the &quot;universal&quot; plates that you would get buying from Panamorph.  Not much of a difference, but, it should make setting it up a little simpler (a lot less holes in the plates - just the ones you need).  -art</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Art, thanks again for all the input. I was curious as to what JVC has since said about what is the best fitting anamorphic lens since you published your review? Are people able to use an ISCO or Schneider or are folks steering more towards something like a Panamorph? Thanks again.</p>
<p>-Nate</p>
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<p>Hi Nate,  Actually I updated the JVC reviews recently (I think I did both).  Anyway, JVC sells their anamorphic solution using the Panamorph lens.  It works with the RS10/20/HD350/750, as well as the older ones.  Their original (Schneider optics) only works with the older JVC&#8217;s.  From what JVC tells me, it&#8217;s the &#8220;standard&#8221; Panamorph lens, but the mounting plates are custom for the JVC, as opposed to the &#8220;universal&#8221; plates that you would get buying from Panamorph.  Not much of a difference, but, it should make setting it up a little simpler (a lot less holes in the plates &#8211; just the ones you need).  -art</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 02:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Art I had missed it! Thanx for pointing me in a direction that my 2 year old could have found 

Thanx</description>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Art-
I&#039;m new to the site, and am awaiting for the arrival of my RS20. I&#039;m particularly interested in your settings, which if I understand correctly, will be listed with the review of the RS10. I just can&#039;t seem to find it.  Can you please point me in the right direction.

Thanx

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Hi Rick,

Hmm, you simply overlooked it. Go to the RS20 review, and select the Calibration listing on the review outline, near the top of the each page of the review.  You will see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.projectorreviews.com/jvc/dla-rs20/calibration.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Calibration&lt;/a&gt; as the 5th item down.  It&#039;s all there!  -art


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Art-<br />
I&#8217;m new to the site, and am awaiting for the arrival of my RS20. I&#8217;m particularly interested in your settings, which if I understand correctly, will be listed with the review of the RS10. I just can&#8217;t seem to find it.  Can you please point me in the right direction.</p>
<p>Thanx</p>
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Hi Rick,</p>
<p>Hmm, you simply overlooked it. Go to the RS20 review, and select the Calibration listing on the review outline, near the top of the each page of the review.  You will see <a href="http://www.projectorreviews.com/jvc/dla-rs20/calibration.php" rel="nofollow">Calibration</a> as the 5th item down.  It&#8217;s all there!  -art</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Obrigavtich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Obrigavtich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 21:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello

I&#039;m looking at getting an RS10 in the near future.  Currently my receiver (Pioneer vsx-74) does not pass 1080p.  I&#039;m wondering how good the JVC&#039;s are with a 1080i feed.  Can they extract the native 24p out of the 1080i and display a judder free image.  If I won&#039;t notice a difference in picture quality or only a minor difference I&#039;ll likely just keep the Pioneer.  If it will be a significant difference I&#039;ll either get a DVDO Edge or swap the reciever for something else.  

Thank you

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Greetings Greg,

I believe the answer is no.  I&#039;ve never tried feeding my Blu-ray as 1080i, so I can&#039;t confirm regarding that.  For 1080i from HDTV, well, I rarely watch a movie over HDTV, but, if I had to guess, I would say &quot;no, it would not strip the material back to 24fps&quot;, and in that case, you would have standard 3:2 pull-down, and the associated judder.   While getting a DVDO edge would solve that problem, it probably will not improve your viewing from Blu-ray.  The Silicon Optics Reon VX processing in the JVC, is extremely good, and probably the equal (and maybe better) than much of the DVDO&#039;s processing, even though the DVDO Edge has some extras, which might be of interest.

My take on it, would be, if anything, to replace the receiver.  If it is only supporting 1080i, then it is also probably only supporting HDMI 1.2 or earlier?   (My 3+ year old Marantz THX certified receiver, for example, does support 1080p, although not the new Dolby and DTS schemes.) If so, you inherently have a receiver that won&#039;t be able to support Deep Color when content starts hitting (one of these days, hopefully).  If that&#039;s the case, then your current receiver probably doesn&#039;t support the newest Dolby and DTS processing such as Dolby True-HD and DTS-HD.  

Remember, there&#039;s some guesswork in my answer.  Best of luck.  -art
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking at getting an RS10 in the near future.  Currently my receiver (Pioneer vsx-74) does not pass 1080p.  I&#8217;m wondering how good the JVC&#8217;s are with a 1080i feed.  Can they extract the native 24p out of the 1080i and display a judder free image.  If I won&#8217;t notice a difference in picture quality or only a minor difference I&#8217;ll likely just keep the Pioneer.  If it will be a significant difference I&#8217;ll either get a DVDO Edge or swap the reciever for something else.  </p>
<p>Thank you</p>
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Greetings Greg,</p>
<p>I believe the answer is no.  I&#8217;ve never tried feeding my Blu-ray as 1080i, so I can&#8217;t confirm regarding that.  For 1080i from HDTV, well, I rarely watch a movie over HDTV, but, if I had to guess, I would say &#8220;no, it would not strip the material back to 24fps&#8221;, and in that case, you would have standard 3:2 pull-down, and the associated judder.   While getting a DVDO edge would solve that problem, it probably will not improve your viewing from Blu-ray.  The Silicon Optics Reon VX processing in the JVC, is extremely good, and probably the equal (and maybe better) than much of the DVDO&#8217;s processing, even though the DVDO Edge has some extras, which might be of interest.</p>
<p>My take on it, would be, if anything, to replace the receiver.  If it is only supporting 1080i, then it is also probably only supporting HDMI 1.2 or earlier?   (My 3+ year old Marantz THX certified receiver, for example, does support 1080p, although not the new Dolby and DTS schemes.) If so, you inherently have a receiver that won&#8217;t be able to support Deep Color when content starts hitting (one of these days, hopefully).  If that&#8217;s the case, then your current receiver probably doesn&#8217;t support the newest Dolby and DTS processing such as Dolby True-HD and DTS-HD.  </p>
<p>Remember, there&#8217;s some guesswork in my answer.  Best of luck.  -art</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

Your fix on the Lens Shift for the DLARS 20 was Right On. It is unstuck and working, THANKS for the Info. 

Mike</description>
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<p>Your fix on the Lens Shift for the DLARS 20 was Right On. It is unstuck and working, THANKS for the Info. </p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 22:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would the RS20 benefit an any way from a DVDO Edge processor?  I read a review of it on this site by someone with , I believe, an RS1.

I&#039;m mainly interested in issues other than color, since mine is calabrated.  Does this do anything to improve on either the motion blur, upscaling, or frame interpolation? Although I find none of thesee currently a problem, after spending for the RS20, the Edge seems a small cost if its worth it.
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Hi Jeff, Mike Rollett, who does all my calibrating of projectors (doing it myself got old, and he&#039;s faster, and better at it), wrote the review of the DVDO Edge for our site.  He, like I, owns an RS1.

I will ask him, and post on his thoughts.  As you probably know, the RS1 has extremely limited image controls, a far cry from the RS20.  That said, I&#039;m not an &quot;outboard processor&quot; guy.  I really have rarely used one, and Mike is more into that stuff, so I&#039;ll check! -art

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would the RS20 benefit an any way from a DVDO Edge processor?  I read a review of it on this site by someone with , I believe, an RS1.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m mainly interested in issues other than color, since mine is calabrated.  Does this do anything to improve on either the motion blur, upscaling, or frame interpolation? Although I find none of thesee currently a problem, after spending for the RS20, the Edge seems a small cost if its worth it.<br />
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<p>Hi Jeff, Mike Rollett, who does all my calibrating of projectors (doing it myself got old, and he&#8217;s faster, and better at it), wrote the review of the DVDO Edge for our site.  He, like I, owns an RS1.</p>
<p>I will ask him, and post on his thoughts.  As you probably know, the RS1 has extremely limited image controls, a far cry from the RS20.  That said, I&#8217;m not an &#8220;outboard processor&#8221; guy.  I really have rarely used one, and Mike is more into that stuff, so I&#8217;ll check! -art</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 04:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you compared this to the Sony VPL-VW70?  I&#039;m considering both (and the VPL-VW80, from a foreign source).

Thanks.

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Hi Robert,

No, not yet.  I have spoken with Sony, and will probably have the VW70 arriving early March - Sony is one of the more &quot;unpredictable&quot; companies when it comes to firm dates, at least in my experience.  They tend to favor print magazines.  It should be interesting though, when it arrives.  I suspect that the JVC will still have the advantage in black levels and brightness, but, I never know until I am working with them.  -art</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you compared this to the Sony VPL-VW70?  I&#8217;m considering both (and the VPL-VW80, from a foreign source).</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>************************<br />
Hi Robert,</p>
<p>No, not yet.  I have spoken with Sony, and will probably have the VW70 arriving early March &#8211; Sony is one of the more &#8220;unpredictable&#8221; companies when it comes to firm dates, at least in my experience.  They tend to favor print magazines.  It should be interesting though, when it arrives.  I suspect that the JVC will still have the advantage in black levels and brightness, but, I never know until I am working with them.  -art</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 08:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

Just installed a DLARS20 JVC. Cannot get the Vertical lens shift to move. The Horizontal works. I hope it is something simple that I am not doing.
Thanks for any help you may have

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Hi Mike, 

I think I may have an answer for you.  If you push the lens shift to the maximum (be it vertical, horizontal, or a combination, when one gets stuck, try moving the the other back towards the center point, just a very little bit.  That should free up the stuck one.  It only seems to happen when you are using all available, but it has done that to me on both the RS10 and RS20.  Doing as I suggest, seems to free it up every time, making it a &quot;no problem&quot;, just a few extra seconds of your life, shot to hell.  -art</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>Just installed a DLARS20 JVC. Cannot get the Vertical lens shift to move. The Horizontal works. I hope it is something simple that I am not doing.<br />
Thanks for any help you may have</p>
<p>************************</p>
<p>Hi Mike, </p>
<p>I think I may have an answer for you.  If you push the lens shift to the maximum (be it vertical, horizontal, or a combination, when one gets stuck, try moving the the other back towards the center point, just a very little bit.  That should free up the stuck one.  It only seems to happen when you are using all available, but it has done that to me on both the RS10 and RS20.  Doing as I suggest, seems to free it up every time, making it a &#8220;no problem&#8221;, just a few extra seconds of your life, shot to hell.  -art</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 02:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you know any details about the upcoming Benq projectors? Are they going to be coming in June or later? How are they going to be priced, any performance specs ?
I was almost set on getting the Optoma hd8200 as my new pj, but then I found out about the offset with a very small lens shift, and I just can&#039;t make that projector work in my setup, so now I&#039;m hoping for another DLP that can compare in performance and price.

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Hi Matt, when I spoke to BenQ at CES, June sounded like about as soon as we can expect them.  I have almost no details but will be talking to them about it next week.  I&#039;ve got the Optoma HD8200 coming in, and like the BenQ, I believe it has a 1.5:1 zoom and lens shift.  Perhaps finally the DLP folks are realizing that the limited placement flexibility is killing their sales.  (In fairness BenQ at least has had lens shift, but still, very limited zoom range.)  -art</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you know any details about the upcoming Benq projectors? Are they going to be coming in June or later? How are they going to be priced, any performance specs ?<br />
I was almost set on getting the Optoma hd8200 as my new pj, but then I found out about the offset with a very small lens shift, and I just can&#8217;t make that projector work in my setup, so now I&#8217;m hoping for another DLP that can compare in performance and price.</p>
<p>**********************<br />
Hi Matt, when I spoke to BenQ at CES, June sounded like about as soon as we can expect them.  I have almost no details but will be talking to them about it next week.  I&#8217;ve got the Optoma HD8200 coming in, and like the BenQ, I believe it has a 1.5:1 zoom and lens shift.  Perhaps finally the DLP folks are realizing that the limited placement flexibility is killing their sales.  (In fairness BenQ at least has had lens shift, but still, very limited zoom range.)  -art</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Flynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Flynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Art,

Two questions: 

1. I heard some negative comments about blur on these LCoS machines...but not in your reviews.  Can I assume that its a non-issue in your opinion for rs1, rs2, rs20, etc?

2. How do I get a bid in on your RS1 once you decide to let it go?

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Hi Mike,

First, regarding motion blur.  I thought I mentioned this in one of the reviews or perhaps a blog about frame interpolation.  Can&#039;t hurt to repeat.
First there seem to be two motion blur issues.  One relates to blurring of fast moving objects in particular, that type of problem is being address (with limited success so far, by creative frame interpolation on a handful of projectors (Epson, Sanyo, Panasonic...)

There is another type that seems to affect different people differently, much as the rainbow effect does.  That one has something to do with the individual&#039;s retina and it&#039;s movement, etc.  The article I found, which I unfortunately lost track of was of a medical nature, and definitely over my head in some regards.  

This is the type, is the one (I believe) that tends to draw remarks like &quot;I just can&#039;t stand to watch it.&quot;  Much as with some people the DLP color wheel/rainbow effect gives them headaches, almost immediately.  (I had someone working for me a couple years back, who couldn&#039;t stand to watch DLP projectors, even for 15 minutes with video sources.  She&#039;d go running from the room.)

So, the bottom line seems to be that something about LCoS panel design that has it come up as a type that probably is more conducive to this other motion blur aspect.  LCD projectors are also more frequently cited.  We know that the persistence? times of LCD and LCoS projectors are longer than DLP, and that&#039;s why most of those folks seem to like DLP?

That&#039;s a lot of conjecture. Best I can do!  -art</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Art,</p>
<p>Two questions: </p>
<p>1. I heard some negative comments about blur on these LCoS machines&#8230;but not in your reviews.  Can I assume that its a non-issue in your opinion for rs1, rs2, rs20, etc?</p>
<p>2. How do I get a bid in on your RS1 once you decide to let it go?</p>
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<p>Hi Mike,</p>
<p>First, regarding motion blur.  I thought I mentioned this in one of the reviews or perhaps a blog about frame interpolation.  Can&#8217;t hurt to repeat.<br />
First there seem to be two motion blur issues.  One relates to blurring of fast moving objects in particular, that type of problem is being address (with limited success so far, by creative frame interpolation on a handful of projectors (Epson, Sanyo, Panasonic&#8230;)</p>
<p>There is another type that seems to affect different people differently, much as the rainbow effect does.  That one has something to do with the individual&#8217;s retina and it&#8217;s movement, etc.  The article I found, which I unfortunately lost track of was of a medical nature, and definitely over my head in some regards.  </p>
<p>This is the type, is the one (I believe) that tends to draw remarks like &#8220;I just can&#8217;t stand to watch it.&#8221;  Much as with some people the DLP color wheel/rainbow effect gives them headaches, almost immediately.  (I had someone working for me a couple years back, who couldn&#8217;t stand to watch DLP projectors, even for 15 minutes with video sources.  She&#8217;d go running from the room.)</p>
<p>So, the bottom line seems to be that something about LCoS panel design that has it come up as a type that probably is more conducive to this other motion blur aspect.  LCD projectors are also more frequently cited.  We know that the persistence? times of LCD and LCoS projectors are longer than DLP, and that&#8217;s why most of those folks seem to like DLP?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a lot of conjecture. Best I can do!  -art</p>
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