Comments on: Oppo BDP-83 Blu-ray player being reviewed! http://www.projectorreviews.com/blog/2009/04/29/oppo-bdp-83-blu-ray-player-being-reviewed/ Thoughts on home theater projectors being reviewed, related products, and tips for users Fri, 03 May 2013 09:55:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Art Feierman http://www.projectorreviews.com/blog/2009/04/29/oppo-bdp-83-blu-ray-player-being-reviewed/comment-page-1/#comment-15799 Art Feierman Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:04:07 +0000 http://www.projectorreviews.com/blog/?p=315#comment-15799 Hi Jeff, since I already answered the same basic question that you emailed me. Here's the short version for other readers: Without a higher resolution display, I don't really see any point in upscaling above 1080p. While those devices may show up in a few years (and most likely inside of your 10 year scenario), why worry about the capability in a player today. There will be so many other changes, before that becomes a relevant capability (upscaling to 4K), we'll likely be dealing with 3D, and a host of other things. Not to mention the supposed incompatibility of HDMI 1.3 to the HDMI 1.4 spec. If the world standardizes on 1.4, sounds like we may all have to replace our cabling, etc. And who knows what other benefits will come across 1.4, that existing 1.3 devices haven't been able to address. Bottom line - unless you can afford a nice 4K pro Cinema projector, hold that thought for a couple few more years, and we'll see if we are closer... Hi Jeff,

since I already answered the same basic question that you emailed me. Here’s the short version for other readers:

Without a higher resolution display, I don’t really see any point in upscaling above 1080p. While those devices may show up in a few years (and most likely inside of your 10 year scenario), why worry about the capability in a player today. There will be so many other changes, before that becomes a relevant capability (upscaling to 4K), we’ll likely be dealing with 3D, and a host of other things. Not to mention the supposed incompatibility of HDMI 1.3 to the HDMI 1.4 spec. If the world standardizes on 1.4, sounds like we may all have to replace our cabling, etc. And who knows what other benefits will come across 1.4, that existing 1.3 devices haven’t been able to address.

Bottom line – unless you can afford a nice 4K pro Cinema projector, hold that thought for a couple few more years, and we’ll see if we are closer…

]]> By: Jeff Hurst http://www.projectorreviews.com/blog/2009/04/29/oppo-bdp-83-blu-ray-player-being-reviewed/comment-page-1/#comment-15737 Jeff Hurst Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:53:47 +0000 http://www.projectorreviews.com/blog/?p=315#comment-15737 The finished OPPO BDP-83 article reports the same as I've seen on all other blu-ray player reviews - DVD playback can be greatly enhanced, but Blu-Ray content isn't. My question - shouldn't it be possible to apply the same upscaling technology to Blu-Ray, and thus adequately feed a higher resolution display than 1080P? The sheer data volume of Blu-Ray would mandate a veeery fast chip, but I think the underlying algorithms to be processed would be identical. 1080P projector prices are falling fast. Doesn't it seem likely that some manufacturer will release a 2160P projector and use something like a uber-capacity version of Anchor Bay Technologies VRS video processing to upscale Blu-Ray to 2180P? The alternative is they're going to hit a point where deeper blacks and more lumens aren't enough to make a competitive advantage. The projectors are possible because we see them in movie theaters all the time. I think 2160P with Blu-Ray upscaling will hit for under $20K within 10 years - and I'll finally be able to have a 200" screen that compares to going out to a digital projection theater. Here's the excerpt from your Oppo article: "Next, I switched back and forth between the Auto and Source Direct (which just passes through the video at the source disk’s native resolution) resolution settings to see if there we any differences. With a normal 1080p Blu-ray disk, I saw no difference between the two on my 1080p display. " The finished OPPO BDP-83 article reports the same as I’ve seen on all other blu-ray player reviews – DVD playback can be greatly enhanced, but Blu-Ray content isn’t. My question – shouldn’t it be possible to apply the same upscaling technology to Blu-Ray, and thus adequately feed a higher resolution display than 1080P? The sheer data volume of Blu-Ray would mandate a veeery fast chip, but I think the underlying algorithms to be processed would be identical. 1080P projector prices are falling fast. Doesn’t it seem likely that some manufacturer will release a 2160P projector and use something like a uber-capacity version of Anchor Bay Technologies VRS video processing to upscale Blu-Ray to 2180P? The alternative is they’re going to hit a point where deeper blacks and more lumens aren’t enough to make a competitive advantage. The projectors are possible because we see them in movie theaters all the time. I think 2160P with Blu-Ray upscaling will hit for under $20K within 10 years – and I’ll finally be able to have a 200″ screen that compares to going out to a digital projection theater.

Here’s the excerpt from your Oppo article: “Next, I switched back and forth between the Auto and Source Direct (which just passes through the video at the source disk’s native resolution) resolution settings to see if there we any differences. With a normal 1080p Blu-ray disk, I saw no difference between the two on my 1080p display. “

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