Mitsubishi HC3800 Home Theater Projector “First Look”
September 6th, 2009 Art Feierman
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UPDATE: The Mitsubishi HC3800 projector review has been posted.
Oh, I like this one!
And I’ve been working with an engineering sample of the Mitsubishi HC3800.

Angle photo of Mitsubishi HC3800 home theater projector
With an engineering sample, that means it’s so early, that many things don’t even work. Case in point, only HDMI works on this projector, not composite video, component video, etc. The color tables (while close), I’m told are also not quite finished.
That said, the one I had here (just shipped it back to Mitsubishi, yesterday) so those of you at CEDIA later this week can see it), is really impressive for the $$$. Let me start with a comment relating to the Mitsubishi HC3800 compared to the just reviewed HD20 from Optoma.
OK, the HC3800 MAPs at $1499 (or is it $1495?), so it’s $500 more than the Optoma HD20. I gave the Optoma our Hot Product Award, afterall, a $999 1080p projector is something to celebrated, and all considered, the HD20 does a very nice job as an entry level projector.
The HC3800, by comparison, is simply better. If you are shopping in the $1000 - $1500 price range, you’ll have to decide if it’s worth the difference, but my take is yes, it’s a step up, and worth every one of those extra $500.
Even before calibration, color handling was very good. This unit doesn’t have proper default settings yet, so, for example film, is not the default gamma. Forget all that, out of the box, it did very well, including skin tones.
I’m just now viewing it for the first time, on movies, since Mike brought it back from calibrating it a few hours ago. I logged at least 15 hours though, before handing it off to Mike.
Black level performance is go0d, very good for a $1500 projector. There is a noticeable improvement in black levels compared to the lower cost Optoma HD20, and for that matter, it did better, side by side, than the Samsung SP-A600 which is a few hundred dollars more.
I can tell you that I can’t count the HC3800 as an “ultra-high” contrast projector (such as the Epson “UB” or the Panasonic PT-AE3000, but it should prove to be better than most projectors under $2000, and definitely will be considered to have black levels a bit better than “entry-level”. With a claimed contrast ratio of only 4000:1, you aren’t getting an impressive number, but then the HC3800 doesn’t have a dynamic iris. Projectors with dynamic irises typically start with contrast ratios of about 15,000:1. It should be interesting, though to see if the HC3800 can hold its own on blacks with, say, Epson’s Home Cinema 6100, a slightly more expensive 3LCD projector with dynamic iris.
The Mitsubishi HC3800 just looks really good. In many ways it reminds me of the Sharp XV-Z15000 which is a $2000+ street priced DLP projector that does have even better black levels. As a trade-off, the HC3800 is a significantly brighter projector… and a lot less money. The Sharp has excellent color and the HC3800 (while I’ve just started to view it post calibration), could be just as good. Sadly, I had to return the Sharp, because it would have made a great side-by-side comparison.
Despite being an engineering sample, this HC3800, which is coming back to me right after CEDIA, looks impressive enough to proceed with the full review, so look for it the week after CEDIA. Because it is an early sample, though, I’ll be getting a full production one in, late October/early November, when they start shipping, so I can note any fixes and improvements.
Let’s back up a second, to define the Mitsubishi HC3800 projector:
Physically, the Mitsubishi HC3800 home theater projector is a small projector, finished in a shiny black case. It’s basically a box, but with some minor sculpting so it’s a bit cuter than the most basic “boxes” out there.
As a small DLP, one can normally expect audible noise levels to be fairly high. Well, that turns out to be the case. Still, the HC3800’s fan noise isn’t that loud (definitely quieter, for example than the HD20), and is somewhat typical for lower cost DLP projectors (though there are quieter ones).
The image is nice and sharp, with perhaps a touch too much edge sharpening at the default setting. Most should like it though. You can turn down the sharpness if you prefer. While there was no substantial difference in sharpness between the HC3800 and the Optoma, I’ll give the HC3800 a very slight advantage.
On the downside, the HC3800 is pretty unique in that it only has one HDMI input, compared to almost all other projectors having two. Still, that shouldn’t be an issue for most folks, especially those with AV receivers with HDMI switching. And low cost (well under $100) HDMI switchers are available on the market.
The remote is nothing to write home about - it’s backlit - but not bright at all. It works well enough, but I’d say, only average in range. Let’s say that if it turns out that the remote is my biggest complaint, then the HC3800 should be a real crowd pleaser.
Color management. While we at projectorreviews.com do not do a full CMS calibration - calibrating the individual colors - (we’ve only ever done that twice), it’s nice to report that the HC3800 does have a full CMS, allowing individual color adjustments for calibrating the primary and secondary colors. That’s not something found on a fair number of lower cost home theater projectors.
Mitsubishi HC3800 projector: The Bottom Line
$1499, really good color handling, and especially skin tones. Good shadow detail, better than entry level black performance, a little noisy, but there are others louder, most will be fine. Longer than average lamp life, and always very important in my book, good overall brightness, with over 600 lumens in best mode, and …
For your consideration, some images:
Image one: “Starship” from The Fifth Element: A look at black levels - HC3800 vs. HD20 (overexposed image, of course). Optoma image on the left, HC3800 on the right.
Image two: Another look at the same Starship image and black levels, this time, compared to the Samsung SP-A600 (recently reviewed, $1795 when it ships in October 09). Samsung image is on the left!
Image three: Color handling - skin tones and more. This time, Leeloo from The Fifth Element, HD20 (left) vs. HC3800.
Image four: Side by side, color handling - HC3800 vs. the new Sony LCoS projector (at twice the price),. This image from Quantum of Solace. (Sony on the left)
I could also show you a black level image compared to the Sony, but, hey, the Sony does have better blacks, it is an “ultra-high” contrast projector, and as I said, one that should sell for twice the price, but I’ll save it for the full review!
Bottom line, for under $1500, with 1080p resolution, the Mitsubishi HC3800 looks to be a performance leader, with better than entry level blacks, very good color, and, I should note, a 2 year warranty. You’ll want to check this one out when it ships in late October.
Folks - that’s it for now! -art
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September 8th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Sounds great. Were rainbows an issue?
Thx!
September 11th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
Great projector. It is simple to use and user friendly which makes it my first choice.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:01 am
Looking forward to the full review on this projector as well.
I use a Mits HD1000U in a townhouse and it has proven to be a great little projector. Plenty of lumens to deal with a little ambient light with good colors and POP.
Hopefully this one will be even better and take over as the value leader in the segment.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Hi Art,
I wonder if you have seen the Mit. HC3100. If yes, do you think it is a upgrade or downgrade to get the HC3800 now, excluding the 720P vs 1080P factor.
September 17th, 2009 at 6:26 am
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September 19th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Thanks for the preview! I am new to projectors and was going to make the HD20 my first one… but I think this Mitsu is going to steal my heart… and my money, haha.
September 19th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Never reviewed it. Did it’s predecessor the HC3000. If I recall, it was still a Darkchip2, but I could be wrong about that. My money is on the HC3800. I figure you’ll get better blacks, have a quieter projector, and in general, probably a richer image by virtue of better processing, improved dynamic range, etc. And of course, it is 1080p.
I just quickly scanned my old HC3000 review over 3 years ago. It was an interesting refresher course. The “standards” of performance were so much lower back then. There really weren’t products that came close to current projectors like the JVCs, Sonys, Epsons, etc. with their black levels. In general, erformance of older projectors where attributes are described as excellent, or “one of the best”, by today’s standards would probably be described today, as acceptable or maybe “reasonably good”, decent, etc., depending on whether it’s an area of technology that has improved a lot. (For example, most lower cost DLP projectors today still have the same “limited placement flexibility as the DLP’s of 3-6 years ago. -a
September 21st, 2009 at 11:32 pm
Hi Art,
Thanks for your detailed explanation n comparison between the old n the new Mit.. FYI, the HC3100 was an 720P unit using a 0.65 Darkchip 3, that was never import to U.S.. The Black level was as good as some of the expensive Marantz unit at the time n much better than those current 1080P Mit. LCD, like HC5500 n 6500.
Anyway, we are all looking forward to your full review on the HC3800.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Hi, Art……
Does the 3800 have lens shift?
Also, I have a 106″ diag. screen (92 x 52) and my mount is approx. 16′-17′ back from the screen.
Will the 3800 work for me?
Thanks!
September 29th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Well that bit about the noise level is discouraging. Their site is claiming a 25db noise level.
I do NOT want another loud projector. I’d sacrifice some image quality to have a unit that has a quieter fan.
Sigh.
September 30th, 2009 at 10:42 am
HI Tevis,
The HC3800 is definitely not quiet. It is a little quieter than the Optoma HD20, but the Epson Home Cinema 8100 is far quieter. I think the Epson claims 22 db in low power, and the Mits, someone said, claims 25 in low power. The difference is certainly greater than 3db. In fact I would guess that the Epson at full power may well be 3 db quieter than the HC3800 in low power.
Bottom line, definitely the HC3800 is not a quiet projector. That will be a deal breaker for some. The bright spot is that, for best movie mode, the HC3800 is still far brighter than the epson, when the HC3800 is running in low power. Few will need full power on the HC3800 for movie viewing, though almost everyone will want full power for sports, general HDTV and TV, etc. Fortunately, for sports and general TV, audible noise is not considered as important an issue. -art
September 30th, 2009 at 11:09 am
No, or rather, to be precise, all projectors have lens shift - just some of them aren’t adjustable. We normally call the fixed lens shift, the lens offset. But, to answer your question properly: No, there is no adjustable lens shift, which means rear shelf mounting up high can’t be done (unless you mount the projector under the shelf). The HC3800 has a lot of lens offset, which can be a problem for larger screens in rooms with lower height ceilings. -art
October 7th, 2009 at 8:44 am
How do you compare black levels of HC3800 with Viewsonic pro8100 after iris firmware fix? What will be the difference in brightness for 120″ diagonal screen?
October 7th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Very good question - no answer since I haven’t seen the Viewsonic since the original review. I understand though, that prices on the Viewsonic are down around the HC3800. I’ll rethink the Viewsonic and see if I can come up with some positioning based on its new price. Most likely I’ll address that in the competitors section of the Mits.
October 10th, 2009 at 7:14 am
my next projector is the HC 3800
October 27th, 2009 at 7:00 am
Thanks Art. I would also appreciate if you can please compare pro8100 with Epson(s), especially after Viewsonic seems started producing more units with new price tag on their web-site.
October 29th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
How is the 3800’s noise in comparison to the HC1500? The HC1500 sound level is perfectly fine to me, but the less noise the better.
October 30th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
My money would be to bet that the HC3800 is slightly quieter than the HC1500, so you should be fine! -a
October 30th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Hey, I’ll try to get to it. Since I wasn’t blow away with the Viewsonic when reviewed, it has been off my radar, and hard to remember the finer points. I’ll have to re-read the review, some notes, and look at some images before I can comment intelligently. Problem is, right now, I just don’t have the time. You guys are killing me. For every blog comment, I get 4-5 emails and I manage to answer at least half, but, reviews must come first, and the more research I have to do, the less likely that I can get to it quickly, if at all. -a
October 31st, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Hi there Art
I currently own a Panasonic PT-AE2000 and was considering the Mitsubishi HC3800. Would you consider this a sideways move or does the mits provide a significant increase in image overall quality?
Thanks
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Kane, I have to consider that a sideways move. You’ll be giving up features, and flexibility, won’t see any substantial change in black levels, etc. Primarily you’ll be getting a lot more lumens in “best” mode. Better to hold off. The move to a PT-AE4000, the Epson UB, or say a BenQ W6000 would be a more positive (and more expensive) move, but one that would make more sense to me. (or even an old JVC RS1 or RS2, if you can find one. -art
November 6th, 2009 at 10:58 am
It seems the now discontinued HC5500 can be had for $1500 also. And while the 5500 is not DLP it does have the HQV processor and a dynamic iris. How do these models compare in overall picture quality?
November 7th, 2009 at 7:45 am
Art,
Any word on when Mitsubishi will market this projector?
And the other less expensive models in waiting?
Bob
November 10th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Hi Tim,
I think the HC3800 has a better looking picture. The HC5500 wasn’t bad at all, but the HC3800 has a more dynamic look overall. the HC5500 in particular would tend to look relatively flat on dark scenes! Of course it’s been more than a year since I’ve seen the HC5500, which at the time, I felt was one of a very few “entry level” projectors, and did pretty well. I do believe, however, that the HC3800 is a step up, from this year’s most entry level 1080p projectors, and also the HC5500. Personally, I’d love to see the two side by side, as time does take it’s toll on memory. Consider this opinion, “my best guess”.
November 10th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
It should be shipping this week, last I heard. -art
The only other less expensive models are the Optoma HD20 (I find the HC3800 superior), and the Vivitek H1080FD (review unit arriving in a couple of weeks (one with the new settled firmware), and the BenQ W1000 (which I’m trying to get my hands on). No idea how the Viv or the BenQ will stack up to the HC3800, but if any of them prove superior to the HC3800, I’ll be pretty surprised. -art