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	<title>Comments on: Runco!  Finally Our First RUNCO Projector Review &#8211; LS7 First Look</title>
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		<title>By: Art Feierman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art Feierman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 20:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Umesh,  I have no idea about Runco reliability.  I&#039;ve never heard anything myself leading me to indicate that.  I know very few owners of Runco&#039;s or Vidikrons (essentially the same products), but I do know a number of Runco dealers.  Haven&#039;t heard anything to indicate such, from the dealers.  

That said, forums always tend to make manufacturers seem like they have problematic projectors, even when not. and that&#039;s because when you encounter a problem, you will do one of 3 things - 1.  call dealer or manufacturer, 2.  search online for your product and a problem phrase, or 3. both of the above.  
As a result - forums are magnets for people with issues.  I also suspect that since models don&#039;t change as quickly as with lower end projectors, that they would be more stable.  And that there is a used market for Runcos and many of them are old.  Remember Runco was the dominant &quot;home theater projector&quot; manufacturer in the &#039;90s.  Today&#039;s modern &quot;lower cost&quot; single chip DLP&#039;s and 3 chip LCD home theater projectors didn&#039;t even hit the market until the last decade, and really there was no &quot;low end&quot; (under $5000 market) until about 2002 or 2003.  One of the very first popular LCD home theater projectors was Epson&#039;s TW100 - at $4499 MSRP, launched July 2002.  It was 720p, had 800:1 contrast, and rated 700 lumens.  My point being, there are a lot of ancient Runco&#039;s out there, CRTs as well as DLPs...   

At any rate, RUNCO has always been about having highly trained dealers and maximum support, so it is strange to hear, unless a lot of it is coming from the used market.  Runco owners, I would think, are often the &quot;check writing&quot; type.  That is, they buy Runco&#039;s because they are &quot;the best&quot; and they can afford them, not because they themselves are necessarily enthusiasts.  It&#039;s just like going to the Eagles concert recently.  I&#039;d venture to say that most of the people in the first 10 rows, were less likely to be Eagles fanatics, than people who simply like the Eagles, but don&#039;t have a problem paying $500+ a ticket, because they have the money.  
Well, enough rambling, for an answer that really answered nothing.  -art</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Umesh,  I have no idea about Runco reliability.  I&#8217;ve never heard anything myself leading me to indicate that.  I know very few owners of Runco&#8217;s or Vidikrons (essentially the same products), but I do know a number of Runco dealers.  Haven&#8217;t heard anything to indicate such, from the dealers.  </p>
<p>That said, forums always tend to make manufacturers seem like they have problematic projectors, even when not. and that&#8217;s because when you encounter a problem, you will do one of 3 things &#8211; 1.  call dealer or manufacturer, 2.  search online for your product and a problem phrase, or 3. both of the above.<br />
As a result &#8211; forums are magnets for people with issues.  I also suspect that since models don&#8217;t change as quickly as with lower end projectors, that they would be more stable.  And that there is a used market for Runcos and many of them are old.  Remember Runco was the dominant &#8220;home theater projector&#8221; manufacturer in the &#8217;90s.  Today&#8217;s modern &#8220;lower cost&#8221; single chip DLP&#8217;s and 3 chip LCD home theater projectors didn&#8217;t even hit the market until the last decade, and really there was no &#8220;low end&#8221; (under $5000 market) until about 2002 or 2003.  One of the very first popular LCD home theater projectors was Epson&#8217;s TW100 &#8211; at $4499 MSRP, launched July 2002.  It was 720p, had 800:1 contrast, and rated 700 lumens.  My point being, there are a lot of ancient Runco&#8217;s out there, CRTs as well as DLPs&#8230;   </p>
<p>At any rate, RUNCO has always been about having highly trained dealers and maximum support, so it is strange to hear, unless a lot of it is coming from the used market.  Runco owners, I would think, are often the &#8220;check writing&#8221; type.  That is, they buy Runco&#8217;s because they are &#8220;the best&#8221; and they can afford them, not because they themselves are necessarily enthusiasts.  It&#8217;s just like going to the Eagles concert recently.  I&#8217;d venture to say that most of the people in the first 10 rows, were less likely to be Eagles fanatics, than people who simply like the Eagles, but don&#8217;t have a problem paying $500+ a ticket, because they have the money.<br />
Well, enough rambling, for an answer that really answered nothing.  -art</p>
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		<title>By: Art Feierman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art Feierman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 19:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi PatB,
Me too!   Actually I&#039;d like to bring in one of the more expensive 3 chip 1080p Runco&#039;s or Vidikrons - you know the $40K - $100K variety.  It&#039;s been a 3+ year effort to convince RUNCO.  Perhaps their change of President&#039;s last year, had some effect.  Well, in our case, that would be for the good.

This RUNCO has been a revelation.  I imagine the optics are superb because, despite being 720p it appears every bit as sharp as my JVC RS20.  Also because they don&#039;t go with zoom lenses with excessive range (like 2:1), since they offer 7 different lenses, and none have more than a 1.6:1 ratio, one&#039;s even fixed)   
And, OMG, 1400+ juicy lumens in best mode... Makes me want to sing that old Belinda Carlisle song - Ooh, Heaven is a Place on Earth.   Now when a movie goes from a dark scene to a bright one, I wince.  It&#039;s like stepping outside, my first thought is sunglasses. Of course, the eye&#039;s iris shuts down to compensate.  I don&#039;t care what others say. 1400 lumens on a 128&quot; Firehawk G3 works just dandy for me, for movie watching.  And voila&#039; a 3 chipper, a dlp projector without a rainbow in sight. And it was also nice to see a dynamic iris implementation and very, very, good (definitely &quot;ultra-high contrast&quot;) blacks.  Boy am I having fun.  

BTW the Mitsubishi HC6800 is just about ready to post.  I only have the summary page and the competitors pages to go, and, as always, I&#039;m willing to post before I&#039;ve written the competitors page.  Hopefully, this evening, tomorrow for sure.  Hey, it&#039;s Memorial Day weekend, my daughter&#039;s birthday weekend (party was last night), and plenty of other things going on.  My wife thought I should see daylight this weekend. Hard to say no to her! -art</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi PatB,<br />
Me too!   Actually I&#8217;d like to bring in one of the more expensive 3 chip 1080p Runco&#8217;s or Vidikrons &#8211; you know the $40K &#8211; $100K variety.  It&#8217;s been a 3+ year effort to convince RUNCO.  Perhaps their change of President&#8217;s last year, had some effect.  Well, in our case, that would be for the good.</p>
<p>This RUNCO has been a revelation.  I imagine the optics are superb because, despite being 720p it appears every bit as sharp as my JVC RS20.  Also because they don&#8217;t go with zoom lenses with excessive range (like 2:1), since they offer 7 different lenses, and none have more than a 1.6:1 ratio, one&#8217;s even fixed)<br />
And, OMG, 1400+ juicy lumens in best mode&#8230; Makes me want to sing that old Belinda Carlisle song &#8211; Ooh, Heaven is a Place on Earth.   Now when a movie goes from a dark scene to a bright one, I wince.  It&#8217;s like stepping outside, my first thought is sunglasses. Of course, the eye&#8217;s iris shuts down to compensate.  I don&#8217;t care what others say. 1400 lumens on a 128&#8243; Firehawk G3 works just dandy for me, for movie watching.  And voila&#8217; a 3 chipper, a dlp projector without a rainbow in sight. And it was also nice to see a dynamic iris implementation and very, very, good (definitely &#8220;ultra-high contrast&#8221;) blacks.  Boy am I having fun.  </p>
<p>BTW the Mitsubishi HC6800 is just about ready to post.  I only have the summary page and the competitors pages to go, and, as always, I&#8217;m willing to post before I&#8217;ve written the competitors page.  Hopefully, this evening, tomorrow for sure.  Hey, it&#8217;s Memorial Day weekend, my daughter&#8217;s birthday weekend (party was last night), and plenty of other things going on.  My wife thought I should see daylight this weekend. Hard to say no to her! -art</p>
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		<title>By: PatB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PatB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 17:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad to see the Runcos included. I don&#039;t imagine I will ever own one but I notice that I always buy Road &amp; Track on the news stand when there is a red half million dollar Ferrari on the cover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to see the Runcos included. I don&#8217;t imagine I will ever own one but I notice that I always buy Road &amp; Track on the news stand when there is a red half million dollar Ferrari on the cover.</p>
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		<title>By: Umesh Bansal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Umesh Bansal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 14:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow thanks for the write up. Are Runco&#039;s prone to frequent breakdowns and problems as I have read on some forums. 
Also any Idea if the LS-3 is any good compared to the JVC HD 550????
Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow thanks for the write up. Are Runco&#8217;s prone to frequent breakdowns and problems as I have read on some forums.<br />
Also any Idea if the LS-3 is any good compared to the JVC HD 550????<br />
Cheers</p>
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